Muahah, f* great thread ever. Ok, here's what I can remember... Clients sometimes can be stupid enough - in thinking THEY can do the work for you.. but sometimes the problem is in your own company, with the sales rep. that don't know anything about design or web.. it goes something like this (happened to me) [We were designing a portal site, that was to be used by nearly every kind of person on the country - it was a phone company's portal site, with phone services and news and information and a…